nixon and watergate. i've had other people say this is such a difficult time, historically, intransgent, poisonous relationships. can anyone lead in these circumstances? >> bill clinton says well no one could fix this fully and, you know, you cans may a case for that. but it depends on your expectation. if our expectations are such that, oh, there's gridlock and you can't get around it then we aren't going to solve the problems. there are all kinds of difficult thing out there. getting and tracking osama bin laden was tough, it took ten years to do it, but they did it. and the problem with all of these economic debates is-- and people think, well, it's about a budget or it's about credit worthiness and so forth. no, it's about this country's balance sheet. we have $13 trillion of i.o.u.s out in the world and we're going to have to go boar or are more. >> woodruff: so if this president is reelected, is it your view that these are skills that he can pick up and have in a second term or is it-- or is it just